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An excellent post by Eva Hughes, originally on Facebook:

I don’t casually call people “greedy.”

I had a watershed moment sometime during the 1980s, standing out on the carriage line talking to my friend Steve Byers (who I really miss and cannot find anywhere on social media.) Steve was a confirmed Ayn Randian…as we discussed the topic of greed as related to some topical news story of the day, Steve said, “But what is “greed”? To me, greed is when you want or take something you didn’t work for, or when you want or take something that belongs to someone else, who worked for what they have.”

That has always stuck with me; if not perhaps the entire meaning of greed, certainly it is the bedrock of the concept.

That is what the radical animal rights activists are who are trying to shut down my beloved carriage industry. They’re greedy. My friend Thomas Kirby germinated that idea in my head, and tying it together with what Steve said all those years ago, it makes perfect sense.

That determination might not be apparent if you have just arrived on the RARA scene, or are new to the issues they create. But essentially, they see something that they CAN’T HAVE; in my situation it is the particular bond between working horse & driver, and the spot that we occupy in this world. Since they can’t have what I have – because of the bizarre life-code that they have created for themselves and try to live by – they want to TAKE IT from ME. And in a more concrete way, they also want to take REAL horses, OUR horses – yes, they want them under THEIR control, they have even written it right into the legislation to ban my business.

Yes, they covet without WORK – they are greedy.

Oh, there is the traditional “greed” involved as well – greedy real estate developers, greedy politicians, greedy hired guns – but I think that other kind of greed, being more subtle and less obvious – is a whole helluva lot more sinister.

Oh, and BTW? They’ll NEVER get their greedy little hands on our horses


Next on my schedule were a couple of young women from MTV and Rolling Stone magazine. One of them asked, “What about those poor horses in Central Park? Don’t you think it’s awful how they have to pull those heavy carriages all day?”

I had an answer for that question “No, I don’t,” I said, then explained that the Central Park horses are content. Pulling carriages on rubber-rimmed wheels on paved streets is a low-stress job, and the horses are calm and relaxed, not anxiously laying their ears back or wringing their tails. Plus, these horses get lots of attention and affection from passerby. And horses love attention and affection as much as we do.

The horses that people should be concerned about are the neglected ones that, after the “newness” of ownership wears off, live in box stalls all day. These horses have no purpose, no jobs to do. All they do is eat and make manure. Even prisoners get to exercise more than these horses, and the horses have never done anything wrong. If they had the choice, these horses would choose to be carriage horses rather than stand in their stalls.

Buck Brannaman, The Faraway Horses, page 251.

At the heart of every controversy, it’s all about power.

All of it.

There are those who have it, and those who don’t. Some in power use it benignly, or even benevolently.

But then there the ones who have power, and who use it to oppress others; to bend the will of the powerless and force them to comply to live the way those with the power think they should, for whatever reason.

This is evil. It is happening everywhere.

It is happening to me and my family right this moment, as a cabal of deep-pocketed businessmen and lunatic animal rights activists have successfully conspired to raise millions of dollars based on lies and deceptions to wrest our family business of 32 years away from us without due process.

This is being done under the banner of “Progressivism.” Our new mayor was swept into power with the enormous help these people provided for his campaign. They have erected a thick veneer of populist sentiment in their campaign to cover all manner of sins, including lies, malfeasance of funds, and election tampering.

The abject vilification and marginalization of good, working class people woven into their propaganda would make Goebbels proud; people routinely call for our arrest and imprisonment, and wish injury and even death on us. They shut down all dissent, deleting and banning anyone who does not toe their line in their appreciable social media presence. Keeping a tight rein on the message while stoking the flames of hatred against us, they move forward, gaining more power everyday.

NYC’s new mayor is 100% complicit in this; he walked into this with eyes wide open, he knows the truth. Yet this “progressive”, this “mayor for all New Yorkers”, this “man of the people” has sacrificed 200 working families who are stewards of a beloved and iconic business for political expediency – and lots and lots of cash – with a cynical casualness that makes my blood run cold.

Real Progressives should be outraged by this. Conservatives should be outraged by this. People of no political persuasion should be outraged by this. It goes against EVERYTHING that is deemed good and desirable by our society, and it is a microcosm of much that is wrong all across the country.

I am asking you all to please help, to pay attention to this, to raise your voice in outraged opposition. Share this status; write a letter to the editor of any newspaper; write a letter to the new mayor; follow and RT me on Twitter @michaleenflynn; like and follow The Famous Horse Drawn Carriages of Central Park page (, and when later this week on that page we launch our new website, “Save the NYC Horse Carriages”, click on it, and share it.

What is being perpetrated on the NYC carriage family is wrong. It is evil. Real people and their horses will suffer. We need your help.

Thank you.

Eva Hughes

Vice President Horse and Carriage Association of New York City

Now that you have won the primary, I invite you to re-think your stance on the NYC carriage horses.

I have lived and worked in and around NYC – I have taken carriage rides and I have actually been inside the stables – something the animal rights activists cannot claim. (As an aside, did you know that one of the founders of a group opposing the NYC carriage horses, WAR (Win Animal Rights), was founded by a convicted animal abuser? ( And that PETA not only kills 97 percent of the animals it takes in, even the ones it admits are adoptable, but supports horse slaughter? (

The NYC carriage horses are well-cared for – as a matter of fact, there has never been a carriage horse driver cited for mistreatment, cruelty, or abuse of a carriage horse. And contrary to what you have read, it is not for lack of trying. The ASPCA, which is charged with overseeing these horses, is in favor of a ban (the ASPCA’s oversight is being phased out). Now, don’t you think they would bend over backwards to find fault if they could? As a matter of fact, a former ASPCA inspector accused them of just that:
In addition, there have been three carriage horses that have died as a result of collisions with traffic in the past 30 (that’s THIRTY) years: Chester (1985), Tony (1990) and Spotty (2006). There have been roughly a half dozen other carriage horses who have died while at work in the past 30 (that’s THIRTY) years – most notably Charlie who died of unknown causes in October 2011, ( Smoothie in 2007 (from head trauma and shock after spooking into a tree due to a snare drum), Juliet in 2007 (colic), Jackie in 1999 (electrocution thanks to ConEd and stray voltage).

I am in no way minimizing the death of any horse, but this is a remarkable record. There is no other riding discipline that can come close – NONE.

Do you know how many pedestrians are killed in traffic every year in NYC? ( Even dogs are run over – should we ban them as well? (

The carriages are not “hard” for the horses to pull – aside from the fact that most of the carriage horses are drafts and draft-crosses, horses bred to pull – the wheels have, imagine this!, roller bearings. I’ve seen the stable hands move them around with one hand. Trust me, even fully loaded, they are not hard for a horse to pull. As an example, you can see a video of a carriage being pulled by a man here:

Contrary to the lies being told by the anti-carriage crowd the stables are clean, open, airy, and well-ventilated, stalls are well-bedded and big enough for the horses to turn around and lie down, the horses can all see each other, they have plenty of hay, custom mix grain, automatic waterers, sprinklers in case of, God forbid, a fire, misters and fans. Plus 24/7/365 stable hands. Regular vet and farrier visits. And yes, I most certainly would board my horse in their stables.

Also contrary to the claims of the anti-horse crowd the horses do not suffer from respiratory problems. As I said, the stables are very well-ventilated and contrary to popular belief the air in NYC is actually quite clean. According to the American Lung Association’s “State of the Air” report (, New York County, NY (i.e., Manhattan) has better air quality than Lancaster County, PA (Amish country) or Hunterdon County, NJ, where Steve Nislick kept his eventing horses.

I hope you will accept the invitation to tour the stables. And then take a carriage ride. You’ll find what real horsemen know – these are well-loved and well-cared for animals.

This is the first of a three-part series, entitled “Blinders UnMasked” exposing the lies of the anti-carriage horse crowd. Well worth your time to watch:

If you think the carriage horse issue does not affect you – think again. Animal rights activists want to eliminate the “use” of animals for any purpose – the carriage horses are simply an easy target.

Equine Advocates is holding a summit on horse slaughter this weekend, and one of the proponents of a ban on the NYC carriage horses, Elizabeth Forel, has been invited to speak on the topic. EA is of the mindset that the NYC carriage horses should be banned (based on what facts, I have yet to hear), but I find it beyond disappointing that it is offering its audience such a one-sided presentation on the NYC carriage horses. Ms. Forel not only has zero hands-on, day-to-day experience with horses, but she has been caught in several out-and-out lies about the NYC carriage horses. Frankly, it makes the entire Summit suspect.

In a post regarding the requests that have been pouring in to EA asking that supporters of the NYC carriage horse industry be allowed to speak at the summit, Ms. Forel, asked some questions that I feel compelled to respond to:

EF: Why are they so afraid of me?

A: No one, and I repeat NO ONE is “afraid” of you. But turnaround is fair play – why are you so afraid of supporters of the NYC carriage horse industry speaking at the EA summit?

EF: For anyone who wants to see the truth – this is our web site. For those who want to believe them when they talk fantasy about “box stalls”, “fake unions” “phony vacations” where even the former ASPCA vet said that when horses return from this so-called vacation, they do not look good (NYPost)

A: Oh, you mean the website and Facebook pages that are censored so that anyone contradicting your “facts” is banned? There are actual box stalls – I’ve seen them myself, been in them, and there are tons of pictures of them on Facebook and elsewhere. In addition, I believe your “spies” at the last ClipClop got plenty of pictures of them as well. “Fake Unions”? I don’t think you can call Teamsters Local 553 “fake”. And the vacations are real – again, you can see plenty of pictures all over Facebook and elsewhere. Besides, you yourself have admitted that horses “disappear” – they are actually on vacation! As mandated by law! But, I forget that you can’t tell one grey horse from another, so that’s probably where your confusion comes in. As for the vet, I believe you are referring to the vet that subsequently retracted her claims about the NYC carriage horses – don’t believe me? You can read all about it here:

I would also like to point out that Ms. Forel’s “campaign” is supported by WAR, which was founded by a convicted animal hoarder/abuser (, PETA, which kills over 97 percent of the animals it takes in, including ones it admits are adoptable (, NYCLASS, co-founded by real estate developer Steve Nislick (, the ASPCA, which gave $450,000 to NYCLASS (from donations? hmmm) (a little something on the ASPCA’s agenda as far as the carriage horses are concerned:, and H$U$, which gives less than one percent of the millions it raises to shelters ( and whose president/CEO, Wayne Pacelle, has stated when asked if he envisioned a future without pets, “If I had my personal view, perhaps that might take hold. In fact, I don’t want to see another dog or cat born.” Bloodties: Nature, Culture and the Hunt by Ted Kerasote, 1993, p. 266.

Now if I may be so bold as to ask Ms. Forel a question – how many times have you been in the NYC carriage horse stables? And I mean actually “inside”?

Yeah. That’s what I thought.

So the censorship and lies go on…

Early in Mayoral Battle, Carriage Horses Are Drawn Into Race

Wait, is this the same Steve Nislick who stated that he was willing to donate to Quinn if she played by his rules?

The same Steve Nislick that co-founded NYCLASS with a Ed Sayres, the outgoing president of the ASPCA, with a $450,000 donation from the ASPCA? The same ASPCA that is charged with monitoring the carriage horses, but is against the carriage horses, but can’t actually find anything wrong with the carriage horses even though they’ve tried awfully hard?

The truth is that the New York City carriage horses are some of the most regulated animals in this country. The fact there has never been a citation for mistreatment or cruelty, even with an awful lot of folks looking for it (including the ASPCA which supports a ban), speaks volumes.

But, of course, this isn’t about the horses at all. It’s all about money and real estate:

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